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August 22, 2007

80 Fire Initial Attack Requests DC-10 Tanker, Denied

 
I came across an interesting item on the "Initial Attack" forum thread on WildlandFire.com.

Members reported a new fire off Interstate 80 near the summit dubbed the "80 Fire."

As you follow the thread it is apparent the Incident Commander upon size up requested a "heavy" air tanker from dispatch. For whatever reason the request was denied. Posters believe the aircraft requested is Tanker 910 most recently on assignment on the Zaca Fire in Santa Barbara. The fire, reportedly now at under 100 acres and holding was initially deemed a threat to a housing development in Truckee, 1/2 mile ahead of the fire.

Not second guessing dispatch here, in fact the information is second hand and it would not be fair to say the IC actually requested the DC-10 Supertanker (T-910). In any case this says the following;
  1. Battalion level fire officers know the tanker exists and what it is capable of.
  2. There is no turning back on the project after the current contract ends.
  3. Opinion from the field will put pressure on Fed tightwads who killed the 747 Supertanker.
  4. Firefighters will be looking overhead for the "heavy" on incidents in the future.
I predict a day when there will be a half dozen DC-10 or 747 tanker conversions stationed around the Western States in years to come. There is no turning back.

More coverage on the "80 Fire" here.

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Posted by: retired cap mike: 6:36 PM


Comments:
Captn, I think you actually read that narrative in regards to the DC-10 denial on my CAL FIRE NEWS blog -
http://calfire.blogspot.com/
It was copied from scanner traffic.
There is no such narrative on Wildlandfire
# posted by Blogger Bob Blogger : August 23, 2007 2:28 PM
 
Bob, I read the following on WildlandFire.com
'"I hope the 20-25 acre report is more accurate than the 80 acre report. Tanker 85 eta is 15:17 hours. Ops declined on the DC-10.

CalFire spokesperson on KCRA channel 3 live report confirms 80 acres"

In truth I haven't been able to load your blog lately. It takes about 4 minutes to load so being impatient by nature I move on. Shame really because I like the format and it saves me from running to Inciweb. Hopefully my new computer (on order) with faster guts will load pages faster.
Keep up the great work.
Mike
# posted by Blogger Mike : August 23, 2007 3:09 PM
 
Hey Mike, Sorry I missed that narrative in that thread my mistake, Yep I have received similar complaints about slow loading, Not sure what to do? Less maps, pictures, post's? - I will work on it maybe less RSS from the Fed feeds they seem to hold things up somewhat.

Great Blog I check it everyday.
Bob
# posted by Blogger Bob Blogger : August 24, 2007 12:09 AM
 
I only wish slow loading was my only problem. Google (or someone) deleted every post of mine before Nov. 2004, some 200 + posts. Admittedly they won't be missed by many, those were the days when 10 to 20 people a day peeked in to have a look.
Even the Internet Archive doesn't have a record of the blog before then.
I'd change to Wordpress because I like their 3 column templates but I would probably lose everything.
# posted by Blogger Mike : August 24, 2007 9:22 AM
 
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