October 24, 2007
Harris Fire, 200 Homes Destroyed, 10% Containment
The question to which fire is burning Lyons Peak is answered in the Incident 209 report for the Harris fire filed 0600 today. Fox 11 briefly showed structures burning in one of the communities within the Harris Fire boundaries. An unpopulated peak is a non story in comparison.
I heard a fire crew from Mexico offered their services and were turned down. Sometimes you have to wonder who is making decisions. One firefighter friend of mine wondered aloud why they aren't mining healthy guys from the Qualcom parking lot.
Yeah I know liabilities etc... There would be lawyers lining up, sadly.
More from the Harris Fire official incident report;
Significant events today (closures, evacuations, significant progress made, etc.):
The fire was held at the edge of Chula Vista and San Miguel DPA. The returning onshore flow has moved the fire to the northeast threatening structures along Highway 94 from Jamul to the east and Jamacha to the west. Lyons Peak was burned and the fire jumped perimeter control lines in the area.
Major problems and concerns (control problems, social/political/economic concerns or impacts, etc.) Relate critical resources needs identified above to the Incident Action Plan.
Extreme fire behavior due to fuel and weather conditions. East/northeast winds are active in the eastern portion of the fire. A more normal onshore flow is influencing the western portion. This wind confluence is causing erratic fire behavior. Heavy fuels and steep terrain on the northern edge of the fire present few control opportunities. Most resource orders remain unfilled due to competing incidents in the southern part of the state.
Projected incident movement/spread during next operational period (in 12, 24, 48, and 72 hour time frames):
12 hours: Fire will continue to move to the north and east.
Remarks:
CDF Team 9 is in unified command with Forest Service, San Diego City, Chula Vista and San Miguel. A total of 21 civilians have been injured and one killed by this fire. 4500 people are or have been threatened and evacuated. Additional evacuations are being ordered. An estimated 200 homes have been destroyed or damaged. 1500 homes are or have been threatened. Most initial attack resources have been engaged continuously since the beginning of the fire. Resource requests are critical. An additional 452 people are assigned to the incident and are either enroute or were initial attack and have not been released from the line to check in. The total personnel count is 1211.
Given the current constraints, when will the chosen management strategy succeed?
Low confidence. Personnel are exhausted. Some additional resources are trickling in.
Growth Potential - Extreme
I heard a fire crew from Mexico offered their services and were turned down. Sometimes you have to wonder who is making decisions. One firefighter friend of mine wondered aloud why they aren't mining healthy guys from the Qualcom parking lot.
Yeah I know liabilities etc... There would be lawyers lining up, sadly.
More from the Harris Fire official incident report;
Significant events today (closures, evacuations, significant progress made, etc.):
The fire was held at the edge of Chula Vista and San Miguel DPA. The returning onshore flow has moved the fire to the northeast threatening structures along Highway 94 from Jamul to the east and Jamacha to the west. Lyons Peak was burned and the fire jumped perimeter control lines in the area.
Major problems and concerns (control problems, social/political/economic concerns or impacts, etc.) Relate critical resources needs identified above to the Incident Action Plan.
Extreme fire behavior due to fuel and weather conditions. East/northeast winds are active in the eastern portion of the fire. A more normal onshore flow is influencing the western portion. This wind confluence is causing erratic fire behavior. Heavy fuels and steep terrain on the northern edge of the fire present few control opportunities. Most resource orders remain unfilled due to competing incidents in the southern part of the state.
Projected incident movement/spread during next operational period (in 12, 24, 48, and 72 hour time frames):
12 hours: Fire will continue to move to the north and east.
Remarks:
CDF Team 9 is in unified command with Forest Service, San Diego City, Chula Vista and San Miguel. A total of 21 civilians have been injured and one killed by this fire. 4500 people are or have been threatened and evacuated. Additional evacuations are being ordered. An estimated 200 homes have been destroyed or damaged. 1500 homes are or have been threatened. Most initial attack resources have been engaged continuously since the beginning of the fire. Resource requests are critical. An additional 452 people are assigned to the incident and are either enroute or were initial attack and have not been released from the line to check in. The total personnel count is 1211.
Given the current constraints, when will the chosen management strategy succeed?
Low confidence. Personnel are exhausted. Some additional resources are trickling in.
Growth Potential - Extreme
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just so you know, this unpopulated peak that you are saying is a non story in comparison...it is populated. My family lives on that mountain, and have probably lost their home. Check you your facts before you comment
# posted by 
: October 24, 2007 3:40 PM
: October 24, 2007 3:40 PM
It is a populated peak thank you. My family lives up there. Check the Facts
# posted by : October 24, 2007 3:41 PM
: October 24, 2007 3:41 PM
My Anonymous friend, what you read was a lame attempt at sarcasm that I was leveling at the poor TV coverage of your fire. The Harris Fire is under served by everyone in the media.
It holds many untold stories. Sadly it is not sexy enough for the TV media, even the print media. Unless it's Malibu or OC, or Rancho Santa Fe it's not worth the print it seems.
I have been watching your fire from the Webcam and in particular the little valley beneath the peak.
I can only assume there are valiant efforts being undertaken by determined fire crews and individual homeowners to save those ranches and homesteads.
I expected to see that valley consumed the way the flames were lined up. I am very glad to see the fire has not taken out everything there.
I have nothing but appreciation for your family situation and pray your home(s)come out OK.
Mike
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It holds many untold stories. Sadly it is not sexy enough for the TV media, even the print media. Unless it's Malibu or OC, or Rancho Santa Fe it's not worth the print it seems.
I have been watching your fire from the Webcam and in particular the little valley beneath the peak.
I can only assume there are valiant efforts being undertaken by determined fire crews and individual homeowners to save those ranches and homesteads.
I expected to see that valley consumed the way the flames were lined up. I am very glad to see the fire has not taken out everything there.
I have nothing but appreciation for your family situation and pray your home(s)come out OK.
Mike
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