July 12, 2008
Quick Notes On California Fires July 12
The Basin Complex Fire added only 860 acres today. The five Zen Center residents who successfully defended their compound the other day did so with some aid from air support. Numerous Forest Service engines were ordered to stay some distance away as the monks actively fought smaller spot fires that erupted throughout the afternoon.
Call this one getting cold in a hurry, however this note appears in the July 12 evening report:
Significant events today:
West Zone: "An Evacuation Advisory from the intersection of Highway 1 and Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park south to Lucia is in effect. East Zone: Mandatory Evacuations of Upper Cachagua. Voluntary Evacuations of Upper Cachagua, Paloma Creek, Lower Carmel Valley Road and Arroyo Seco."
GeoMAC no longer shows the perimeter of the 83,000 acre Indians Fire. This means to me these two fires will likely be treated separately for historical purposes by the Forest Service.
The BTU Lightning Complex that burned through Concow and parts of Paradise earlier in the week has cooled to a great extent as well.
The SHU Lighting Complex is still very active as the Motion and Moon Fires have open flame fronts. Tired ground and air crews are still working with limited re enforcement. National Guard and crews from foreign soil are being dispatched to some fires so some help is coming.
The Lime Complex, Hell's Half Complex, and the Iron & Alps Complex in the Trinity Alps show active fire fronts. Many of these fires will burn until it rains.
Click here for the NIFC Fire Summary report for July 12
Call this one getting cold in a hurry, however this note appears in the July 12 evening report:
Significant events today:
West Zone: "An Evacuation Advisory from the intersection of Highway 1 and Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park south to Lucia is in effect. East Zone: Mandatory Evacuations of Upper Cachagua. Voluntary Evacuations of Upper Cachagua, Paloma Creek, Lower Carmel Valley Road and Arroyo Seco."
GeoMAC no longer shows the perimeter of the 83,000 acre Indians Fire. This means to me these two fires will likely be treated separately for historical purposes by the Forest Service.
The BTU Lightning Complex that burned through Concow and parts of Paradise earlier in the week has cooled to a great extent as well.
The SHU Lighting Complex is still very active as the Motion and Moon Fires have open flame fronts. Tired ground and air crews are still working with limited re enforcement. National Guard and crews from foreign soil are being dispatched to some fires so some help is coming.The Lime Complex, Hell's Half Complex, and the Iron & Alps Complex in the Trinity Alps show active fire fronts. Many of these fires will burn until it rains.
Click here for the NIFC Fire Summary report for July 12
Labels: 2008 Fire Season, Basin Complex, California Firestorm 2008, Lime Complex, shu lightning complex
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Thanks, Mike, for finding out about the air support... Glad to hear it! If you know any further details it would be great to hear what was happening.But I realize the Tassajara part of this story is probably over, unless downhill rolling debris causes new problem.
Also glad to hear that many of the fires all over the state are starting to calm. Wish it were all of them. Exhausted firefighters, everywhere, and your friends and families, thank you from all of us who aren't able to be there with you. If I could bring you some lemonade and a few hours sleep smoke free, I would. But all I can offer is gratitude, gratitude, gratitude, for your courage and strength in serving others.
And to Mike, for providing a conduit for information.
Also glad to hear that many of the fires all over the state are starting to calm. Wish it were all of them. Exhausted firefighters, everywhere, and your friends and families, thank you from all of us who aren't able to be there with you. If I could bring you some lemonade and a few hours sleep smoke free, I would. But all I can offer is gratitude, gratitude, gratitude, for your courage and strength in serving others.
And to Mike, for providing a conduit for information.
# posted by 
: July 13, 2008 5:39 AM
: July 13, 2008 5:39 AM
MIke, wondering if that Newsweek story that made mention of the Tassajara monks was your connection? If it wasn't and you haven't seen it:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145850
thanks, Jane
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145850
thanks, Jane
# posted by : July 13, 2008 5:41 AM
: July 13, 2008 5:41 AM
Just out of curiosity, can anyone share statistics about how many states and countries are involved in fighting California wildland fires, and how many personnel from each area? -- Thanks
Hi Jane and Preston, thanks for the comments.
Preston, I'll try to dig that info up. If I can find it I'll post about it.
*the private question re: Newsweek.
I forwarded the numbers sent to me to two media outlets. No one followed up with me so I don't know on what desks the numbers fell.
I do expect more attention to the Tassajara story as things calm down. Very powerful story.
Preston, I'll try to dig that info up. If I can find it I'll post about it.
*the private question re: Newsweek.
I forwarded the numbers sent to me to two media outlets. No one followed up with me so I don't know on what desks the numbers fell.
I do expect more attention to the Tassajara story as things calm down. Very powerful story.
Capt Mike, I've been following your blog regularly--thank you so much for keeping it up. I do wish that the Sitting With Fire would update much more frequently, and provide more details. There are so many of us out here wanting to "do" something, and getting more information really helps to calm us!!
Anything else you learn about the Tassajara area, including the Tass Road, please post!
Again, thanks.
Anything else you learn about the Tassajara area, including the Tass Road, please post!
Again, thanks.
# posted by : July 13, 2008 9:02 AM
: July 13, 2008 9:02 AM
Capt. Mike,
If you have any scuttlebutt on the "upper Cachagua" closure at the basin fire it would be interesting. I am in touch with a number of locals in the Jamesburg area who went thru the Marble Cone & 1999 fires and they are completely baffled as to why this is happening. The fire is still very far away by historical standards and not moving their way very fast at all, it could be over a week before this is settled. People are having to choose between home & jobs. The sheriff sure seems to be enjoying it.
Thanks,
If you have any scuttlebutt on the "upper Cachagua" closure at the basin fire it would be interesting. I am in touch with a number of locals in the Jamesburg area who went thru the Marble Cone & 1999 fires and they are completely baffled as to why this is happening. The fire is still very far away by historical standards and not moving their way very fast at all, it could be over a week before this is settled. People are having to choose between home & jobs. The sheriff sure seems to be enjoying it.
Thanks,
# posted by : July 13, 2008 9:46 PM
: July 13, 2008 9:46 PM
They could easily ferry/escort people in for showers and to check on homes.
Very poor public relations move by the S/O.
As for the danger in Jamesburg, I don't see it on the maps.
Some aspects of this incident are troubling, some of the tactics have been brilliant.
The people skills area (all around) need some brushing up.
Best to you all, it will be over soon.
Very poor public relations move by the S/O.
As for the danger in Jamesburg, I don't see it on the maps.
Some aspects of this incident are troubling, some of the tactics have been brilliant.
The people skills area (all around) need some brushing up.
Best to you all, it will be over soon.
Capt Mike:
Have you seen this?
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/meyer/
Amidst all the brave work of the fire crews and the determined actions of residents to save their homes, it is unsettling to note the inability of the authorities to relate in positive ways and give support to those residents who are capable of joining with them in fighting the fire. It's more than poor public relations. It's a lack of humanity. And now there is this morning's story about Jack English having to leave his cabin. The monks' actions at Tassajara says it all. Let's be sure there is a future dialogue on this troubling issue. (ps: do you still want my phone #)
Have you seen this?
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/meyer/
Amidst all the brave work of the fire crews and the determined actions of residents to save their homes, it is unsettling to note the inability of the authorities to relate in positive ways and give support to those residents who are capable of joining with them in fighting the fire. It's more than poor public relations. It's a lack of humanity. And now there is this morning's story about Jack English having to leave his cabin. The monks' actions at Tassajara says it all. Let's be sure there is a future dialogue on this troubling issue. (ps: do you still want my phone #)
# posted by : July 14, 2008 7:55 AM
: July 14, 2008 7:55 AM
Hi Joan, yes I would keep it in case someone in the "media" wants opinions.
I will read the article later, errands call ATM.
Thanks again Joan--
Mike
I will read the article later, errands call ATM.
Thanks again Joan--
Mike
Thanks Joan.
Thanks for the note;
My email direct is
Mikeswebmail@gmail.com
Tough to communicate through comments.
FireMonks! The best!
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Thanks for the note;
My email direct is
Mikeswebmail@gmail.com
Tough to communicate through comments.
FireMonks! The best!
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